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”Lisa?” svarar jag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Hej Lisa, jag heter Maj, och jag kan b\u00f6rja med att s\u00e4ga att jag inte kommer att f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka s\u00e4lja n\u00e5nting till dig.” R\u00f6sten \u00e4r varm, v\u00e4nlig, liksom hemtrevlig. Om r\u00f6ster kunde dofta s\u00e5 skulle den h\u00e4r ha luktat nybakade bullar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Haha, okej?”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Jo det \u00e4r s\u00e5 att jag ringer fr\u00e5n Jehovas Vittnen, och jag ville bara fr\u00e5ga dig om du k\u00e4nner till bibelns budskap?”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Jo, det g\u00f6r jag nog,” svarar jag och hoppas att det \u00e4r en pratbar Maj som ringt mig.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Jaha du g\u00f6r det redan? K\u00e4nner du till Jehovas Vittnen kanske ocks\u00e5?”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Javisst. Det var s\u00e5 att jag fick bes\u00f6k av dina … vad s\u00e4ger man? Kollegor? V\u00e4nner? Ja, tv\u00e5 fr\u00e5n Jehovas Vittnen i alla fall som kom och ringde p\u00e5 hos mig f\u00f6r ett par \u00e5r sen. Vi stod och pratade i tv\u00e5 timmar i d\u00f6rren och hann g\u00e5 igenom ganska mycket. Det var trevligt, men vi var r\u00f6rande \u00f6verens om att vi har olika s\u00e4tt att se p\u00e5 v\u00e4rlden.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maj skrattar hj\u00e4rtligt: ”Jaha ojd\u00e5, tv\u00e5 timmar, det var l\u00e4nge! Vet du om att vi har en hemsida d\u00e4r man kan l\u00e4sa mer, om det \u00e4r s\u00e5 att man skulle vilja det?”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

”Nej, men nu vet jag det ifall andan skulle falla p\u00e5.” Maj g\u00f6r en ansats att kasta upp mer info i luften, samtidigt som jag stillsamt forts\u00e4tter: ”Jag har studerat religionshistoria, jag har l\u00e4st bibeln bland annat s\u00e5 jag vet vad den handlar om.” <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jag \u00e4r beredd att ta diskussionen, beredd att sl\u00e4ntra omkring i utkanten av \u00e4mnet och prata om Koranen, de tre broderreligionerna, det f\u00f6rsta konciliet i Nicaea<\/a> \u00e5r 325 (det d\u00e4r m\u00f6tet d\u00e4r endast m\u00e4n tr\u00e4ffades och sorterade vad som skulle ing\u00e5 i den kristna trosl\u00e4ran, dvs Bibeln*), Matrix, livet efter d\u00f6den och s\u00e5 vidare, men tyv\u00e4rr s\u00e5 nappar inte Maj. Ist\u00e4llet \u00e4r hon respektfullt v\u00e4nlig, h\u00e4nvisar \u00e4n en g\u00e5ng till hemsidan som s\u00e5klart \u00e4r \u00f6ppen f\u00f6r alla, och \u00f6nskar mig en trevlig kv\u00e4ll.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jag kanske har b\u00e4ttre lycka n\u00e4sta g\u00e5ng.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Bild fr\u00e5n Sigtuna-retreaten<\/a>, S:t Olofs kyrkas ruin. <\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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*Och g\u00e4rna, precis som under det d\u00e4r tv\u00e5timmarsm\u00f6tet vid min ytterd\u00f6rr f\u00f6r l\u00e4nge sen nu, understryka hur mycket som sorterades bort \u2013 bland annat s\u00e5nt d\u00e4r kvinnor b\u00e4r en mer betydande roll. Tydligen finns det texter som styrker att Maria Magdalena ska ha varit en l\u00e4rjunge, andra att hon var Jesus hustru \u2013 det \u00e4r intressant ur flera perspektiv, men framf\u00f6r allt var det intressant att se hur mina ”favoritvittnen”, som jag kallade dem, tog sig an utmaningen att motargumentera. F\u00f6r det \u00e4r ju trots allt s\u00e5, att ingen av oss vet. Det \u00e4r d\u00e4rf\u00f6r vi har tro \u2013 och forskning.
M\u00f6jligen hade de lika roligt som jag, d\u00e4r vi f\u00f6ljdes \u00e5t \u00f6ver det brokiga landskap som religion ofta \u00e4r; \u00e5rtusenden av ned\u00e4rvd tro fr\u00e5n pr\u00e4ster till f\u00f6ljare och vidare igen, och som likt klippor vid havet format sig efter sitt folk som med tiden str\u00f6mmat genom den. Hade det inte varit f\u00f6r det skrivna ordet hade den riskerat att ebba ut precis som viskleken. Den intressanta fr\u00e5gan, tycker jag, \u00e4r vad som hann h\u00e4nda med ber\u00e4ttelsen om Jesus under de 325 \u00e5r som f\u00f6regick konciliet i Nicaea. Den fr\u00e5gan lyckades vi inte f\u00f6rst\u00e5 varandra i d\u00e4remot.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

”Lisa?” svarar jag. ”Hej Lisa, jag heter Maj, och jag kan b\u00f6rja med att s\u00e4ga att jag inte kommer att f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka s\u00e4lja n\u00e5nting till dig.” R\u00f6sten \u00e4r varm, v\u00e4nlig, liksom hemtrevlig. Om r\u00f6ster kunde dofta s\u00e5 skulle den h\u00e4r ha luktat nybakade bullar. ”Haha, okej?” ”Jo det \u00e4r s\u00e5 att jag ringer fr\u00e5n Jehovas Vittnen, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wprm-recipe-roundup-name":"","wprm-recipe-roundup-description":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[3308,2499,2693,3307,3306],"class_list":["post-10726","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-vardagstrams","tag-arv","tag-dialog","tag-filosofi","tag-historia","tag-over-telefon"],"yoast_head":"\nEtt samtal fr\u00e5n ok\u00e4nt nummer -<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"tv\u00e5 fr\u00e5n Jehovas Vittnen. 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